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  • Im have been asking my self who woud won this battle Ultraman or Godzilla

    fell free to leave your opinion

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    • I'll direct you to the comment sections here, and here. :P

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    • Godzilla because he can littelarly beat anyone.

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    • Tell that to Destoroyah.

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    • Zombiejiger wrote:
      Tell that to Destoroyah.

      Godzilla killed Destoryah but had a hard time defeating him.

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    • Actually no, Destroy was killed by the military using their freezing lasers, it's main weakness, the cold.

      As for who would win in Ultraman Versus Godzilla...I really don't care, because this is like what? The third or fourth time this has come up and I will give my answer, it depends.

      Ultras come from a planet sixty times Earth's Mass and are stated to be superhuman on their homeworld, in terms of relative strength. So in terms of physical strength, I highly doubt Godzilla could beat them.

      Their planet's atmosphere would incinerate any normal life form on contact. Ultras, under normal circumstances cannot burn, they are resistant to fire, heat, lasers and even their one one-shot-kill beams, which means while they can feel Godzilla's breath attack, it actually doesn't physically hurt them.

      Their beams disrupt molecular bonds meaning, whatever they hit, gets turned into a bomb and explodes. Ultraman once completely incinerated a Kaiju with stronger regenerative powers than even big G's and Leo, a normal Ultra, once blew up an entire planet. In fact, the Manga Story 0, heavily implies that Ultras hold back the strength of their beams, because the blasts would be otherwise nuclear in scope.

      The main advantage Big G would have is their time limit, Ultras tire out quickly in Earth's atmosphere but even that is not universal. Ultras are stated to be trained to pace themselves, and some Ultra A. Don't have a time limit like Ultraseven, B, are like Father of Ultra who can destroy an asteroid with his punch when fully powered, or C, in a movie format, the time limit is ignored completely.

      Let us look at Big G:

      His Breath, a beam of gamma rays which ionizes the atmosphere causing the plasma stream normally considered his 'atomic ray'. Ultras are highly resistant to lasers, intense heat, and the radiation of their homeworld is worse than anything Godzilla ca spit out.It could hurt them, but it is nothing serious.

      His Hide, Godzilla 2000, his hide was pierced by bunker buster missiles (they called it a 'special' missile but that's what they were), it has been pierced by other monsters, their fangs or bladed weapons, to cut an Ultra's skin that weapon has to be incredibly sharp.

      His strength: Godzilla can pick up and throw monsters his size, which basically just puts his strength in the same category of most known Ultras who have no problem doing the same.

      His Size: Godzilla is normally 80m twice the hight of the average Ultra. 1, that is not unprecedented for Ultras and 2, they can change their size, in fact the newest Ultras are no longer given a 'normal' size. In fact Max, once went to over 200 meters tall.

      Big G's accomplishments: I.E what most fanboys point to.

      Blew up a Planet- No, no he didn't. In final wars he blew up a large asteroid, which considering his beam hit it at it was burning up from atmospheric entry, it would've blown up regardless. It was nowhere near as big as a planet, or even a planetoid (a large near spherical asteroid, smaller than a dwarf planet) and this was the OP Final Wars version that Fanboys want to treat as the norm.

      He blew up a black hole- Again, no, he didin't. He fired his beam into a micro black hole, which explodes in a burst of tidal forces. Godzilla's beam caused it to go off prematurely as he escaped underground.

      He can One shot monsters: Again, that is the Final Wars version, the OP version of Godzilla, that would be like putting normal 80's Godzilla against Ultraman King, or Noa, two godlike figures. It's not fair and they do not represent the norm. Also, once Godzilla faced up against Monster X, his strength was matched and Kaiser Ghidorah would've killed him had he not received outside help. So even when OP he's not unstoppable.

      In Summary:

      Unless Godzilla can stall Ultraman, the fates are not on his side (interestingly, the three minute rule exists to nerf an otherwise overpowered species of protagonists), if they fight anywhere, not Earth like, Godzilla is royally screwed, Even if you put Final Wars Godzilla versus, Ultraman Zero or Ultraseven X, two Ultras without time limites and just as overpowered, the ball is still in the Ultra's court, especially with Zero. So I would put my money, on Ultraman if I was a betting man.

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    • Brick360 wrote:

      Zombiejiger wrote:
      Tell that to Destoroyah.

      Godzilla killed Destoryah but had a hard time defeating him.

      Destoroyah killed Godzilla, the military killed Destoroyah.

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    • I'd say Godzilla would be too durable for a single Ultraman to take time with time limits. Though it really depends on what Godzilla. 

      These links should help with Godzilla power levels. 

      http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/godzilla-respect-thread-1604585/

      http://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13112

      http://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22129

      I'd also like to point out Godzilla has come back from death twice. The 1954 Godzilla possessed Kiryu, and the GMK is a resurrected 1954 Godzilla. 

      I'd say Ultras could beat the GMK Godzilla, Legendary Godzilla, The Godzilla from the Kiryu Saga, and Godzilla 2000. 

      Showa Godzilla might be equal to Ultras. 

      Other Godzillas could probably best most Ultramen one on one and possibly even multiple Ultras at the same time. Someone would have to give me some feats and references for Ultras though. 

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    • I agreed with you up until the 'possibly even multiple Ultras' part. I am assuming you refer to the nameless bakcground Ultras seen in Ultra Galaxy Legends, and not multiple main characters.

      As for feats, you need to be specific. You have your average named Ultra Warrior who could harm him, you have Ultraman who can enhance his strength mentally to the point that he is synonymous with strength in the series, you have Father of Ultra/ Ultraman Ken who can punch an asteroid to dust at full power is has an attack that throws a black hole. You have Ace, who has several attacks that can cut apart a monster, Taro, Leo and Ultraman who can manhandle monsters, in fact all of them can pick up and throw monsters Godzilla's size, and Seven, who depending on which version of his series you watched, it is implied that he killed a version of Godzilla. You have Zero, the over powered chosen one, or X, whose beam turns its victims into spark dolls, or Gaia and Agul, who have no time limits and Gaias Supreme Form's fighting style revovles around manhanding monsters.

      Also, coming back from the dead, doesn't matter, It's who would win IN a fight. If you got blown apart and came back, it doesn't change the fact that you lost. Hell, Ultramen have died and been resurected but they were still considered defeated.

      Godzilla would be a very strong monster, but faced against multiple Ultras and that would be an unfair fight, even with the time limit.

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    • Did you go through my links? The feats shown are pretty impressive. 


      How about feats for 

      Average Ultra Warrior 

      Average Tiga Universe Ultras 

      Ultraman Noa

      Ultra Father 

      Ultraman King 

      Until we can get official confirmation that Ultraseven killed a Godzilla I don't think we can use that. Especially since its a outdated to current Godzillas.  Also location is a key factory on who wins. 


      I Imagine if there was some sort of official crossover that Ultraman wouldn't be able to kill Godzilla and that they'd team up. (A crossover is bound to happen eventually... right?) 

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    • Bioniclefan1 wrote: Did you go through my links? The feats shown are pretty impressive. 


      How about feats for 

      Average Ultra Warrior 

      Average Tiga Universe Ultras 

      Ultraman Noa

      Ultra Father 

      Ultraman King 

      Until we can get official confirmation that Ultraseven killed a Godzilla I don't think we can use that. Especially since its a outdated to current Godzillas.  Also location is a key factory on who wins. 


      I Imagine if there was some sort of official crossover that Ultraman wouldn't be able to kill Godzilla and that they'd team up. (A crossover is bound to happen eventually... right?) 

      No offense, but I'm pretty sure you can't beat SolZen in a debate about this. He's done it at least three other times. :P

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    • Zombiejiger wrote:

      Bioniclefan1 wrote: Did you go through my links? The feats shown are pretty impressive. 


      How about feats for 

      Average Ultra Warrior 

      Average Tiga Universe Ultras 

      Ultraman Noa

      Ultra Father 

      Ultraman King 

      Until we can get official confirmation that Ultraseven killed a Godzilla I don't think we can use that. Especially since its a outdated to current Godzillas.  Also location is a key factory on who wins. 


      I Imagine if there was some sort of official crossover that Ultraman wouldn't be able to kill Godzilla and that they'd team up. (A crossover is bound to happen eventually... right?) 

      No offense, but I'm pretty sure you can't beat SolZen in a debate about this. He's done it at least three other times. :P

      Ha ha ha. Yeah I imagine this question comes up a lot here.

      I don't think anyone can really win. Simply asking "who would win?" is way too vague of a question to determine which character is most likely to win. 

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    • Bioniclefan1 wrote:

      Zombiejiger wrote:

      Bioniclefan1 wrote: Did you go through my links? The feats shown are pretty impressive. 


      How about feats for 

      Average Ultra Warrior 

      Average Tiga Universe Ultras 

      Ultraman Noa

      Ultra Father 

      Ultraman King 

      Until we can get official confirmation that Ultraseven killed a Godzilla I don't think we can use that. Especially since its a outdated to current Godzillas.  Also location is a key factory on who wins. 


      I Imagine if there was some sort of official crossover that Ultraman wouldn't be able to kill Godzilla and that they'd team up. (A crossover is bound to happen eventually... right?) 

      No offense, but I'm pretty sure you can't beat SolZen in a debate about this. He's done it at least three other times. :P

      Ha ha ha. Yeah I imagine this question comes up a lot here.

      I don't think anyone can really win. Simply asking "who would win?" is way too vague of a question to determine which character is most likely to win. 

      True. By the way, nice username.

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    • A Comparison Feats

      So here's the contest rules.

      1) Win: 2 points

      2) Tie: 1 point each.

      3) Loose: 0 points

      Durability

      • Godzilla: Godzilla can withstand conventional weaponry and his body has been pierced by things that can pierce an Ultra's body. Godzilla can also regenerate
      • Ultras: Their bodies are immune to burning, lasers, fire and other than the sensation of physical pain most of the same attacks that harmed Godzilla just 'hurt' Ultras in the form of a sensation. Ultras have been hit by Atomic Heat Rays before, with little consequence. In fact most of the 'damage' to then was really just eating into their time limit when you stop and question the logic of it all.
      • Winner: Godzilla, were it no for the Time Limit the Ultras have endured injuries just as bad, if not worse considering the greater variety of attacks in the Ultraverse. However, Godzilla cannot one shot an Ultra, nor would his beam be anywhere near fatal.

      Strength

      • Godzilla: Can lift and throw monsters his own size and a little bigger.
      • Can lift and throw monsters bigger than them in terms of mass. Their biggest weakness is their time limit. Without said limit, three Ultras (and a Gomora) were gradually mopping the floor with an army of one hundred monsters until Belial attacked them directly. Ultras come from a planet Sixty times Earth's Mass, that means their bodies were made to deal with sixty times normal Earth Gravity, while Godzilla evolved on Earth.
      • Tied: As strong as Godzilla maybe, his average strength is roughly equivalent to that of the average of most of the Ultra Crusaders known at present. While the Ultras actualy

      Beam Attack

      • Godzilla: Fires a beam of concentrated radiation, which super heats the air resulting in the blue fire normally associated with it.
      • Ultras: Fire a particle beam, which also burns at incredibly hot temperatures. However besides burning, the attack also disrupts molecular bonds causing the target's body to explode.
      • Winner: Ultraman. While Godzilla's beam is much reverred it is both rivaled by the average Ultra Beam and surpassed by pure mechanics. Being turnedd into a bomb is much deadlier that simply being burned

      Skill

      • Godzilla: Godzilla at times, has shown animal cunning
      • Ultras: Warriors who have trained for thousands of years in beam, physical and energy manipulation that nears magic in their variety and usage.
      • Winner: Ultraman. Godzilla may be clever, but Ultras are generally trained warriors, with thousands of years of fighting experience, and do much more than just shoot beams. I've seen normal Ultras turn a monster into a normal animal, stop artilery shells mid-fire, and the somewhat common ability to completely freeze something, which last I checked sealed even the OP Final Wars version.

      Range of Motion

      • Godzilla: Godzilla is generally a lumbering beast (98 DOESN'T COUNT! THAT IS ZILLA NOT GODZILLA!) he is physically slow.
      • Ultraman: Ultras are known to be acrobatic with flips and cartwheels, they can also fly and go anywhere Godzilla can go.
      • Winner: Ultraman. Godzilla is purposely design to be lumbering. Ultras can run circles around him, no matter how strong he is, it means nothing if he can't hit his opponent. Against faster enemie Godzilla had to be clever, or lucky and Ultras are much smarter than his regular opponents.

      Greatest Feats

      • Godzilla:
        • Blew up an Asteroid: Again to all those out there that want to say 'Planet Galgotha'. It was a large asteroid. I've watched the movie and even if they actually did call it a planet (and not bad subbing) it was WAY too small to be a planet. But yes, he blew up an extinction level asteroid
        • Ignited an unstable Micro Black Hole: No he didn't destroy the black hole. Those things would explode into a torrent of tidal forces when they hit the ground and Godzilla's breath just caused the last one to explode before it hit him, allowing him to escape underground. People, stop saying he blew up a black hole, the whole planet, G-man included, would be gone.
      • Ultraman: Now I am going to ignore Ultraman King, Legend and Noa, because there is yet no version of Godzilla that can beat them.
        • Blew up a Planet: Ultraman Leo, a normal Ultra, blew up a planet sized monster, called Black Star.
        • Blew up and Island sized Space ship: Ultraman Tiga, in space, fired his beam on a spaceship the size of a small island, and roughly close in size to the asteroid Final Goji blew up and obliterated it
        • Grew to over 200 meters tall: Ultraman Max did that, twice
        • Moved and Entire Planet: Ultraman Cosmos did this with the help of another being, and Ultraman Hikari did it with Alien Empera's ship, which housed an entire planet inside a pocket universe.
      • Winner: Irrelevant to my total score, but I would go with Ultraman

      Overall Winner...

      Godzilla-3 points

      Ultraman-7 point

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    • @ Zombie, Thanks!


      @ SolZen Wait which Godzilla? It seems like you're just using the modern movies. Each incarnation of Godzilla has a variety of different feats and traits. Like for example the 2nd Showa Godzilla can fly, is pretty fast, magnetic powers, intelligent, and somehow knew martial arts. 

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    • Basically between the Hesei and Millenium Godzilla, using them as an average. Somewhere in there is GMK who is a reborn original Goji. Despite being much smaller than those two, who are similar in height and other stats, his durability and full powered ray rivaled theirs. Basically an amalgamation of the average/standard of what Godzilla' stats are. If I sat down and wrote a comparison for each specific Goji incarnation, even the 2014's...I would have carpal tunnel syndrome. Oddly enough, I find that despite the various incarnations the portrayal of his powers is generally consistant

      As for the 'Showa' Godzilla, no, just no. The only reason he had all those powers was because Toho was literally trying to turn him into a Superhero, i.e. a scally version of Ultraman. Showa Godzilla ranged from a little silly to that crazy senile old uncle of the Godzilla family that everyone brings to the reunions only because they would feel too bad to abandon him in the house alone...

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    • Why not propose this fight to Death Battle at Screw Attack, and give them all the facts you have laid out here. (I'm kidding, don't do it, they've already admitted they choose the winners based on their own bias, and then build the winner up with their facts.)

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    • Durability- Agree. 

      Strength- Not sure, Heisei Godzilla can lift Biolantte. http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11119/111191676/4115560-gz+feat+strength+%2810%29.png And she is 200,000 tons. If Ultraman can lift more than that Ultraman gets the point. 

      Beam-Undecided,  First off Godzilla has 3 beam attacks you're describing the heat beam. (Which was able to piecre through Mech King Ghidora's 23rd Century armor.) There is also Spiral Ray which is much more powerful. It one shotted Mechagodzilla II and it only took a few shots to defeat Spacegodzilla. . There's also Nuclear Pulse. Which can push King Ghidora(90,000 tons) back a distance. Ultraman can probably dodge the other attacks but not nuclear pulse. Not sure if there's some limit to how many times Godzilla can use nuclear pulse though.  

      Skill- Agree

      Speed- Mostly agree, but Godzilla is quick, he just can't run. His claw attacks, tail attacks, and firing his beam he can do very fast. So if Ultraman will have problems fighting close range. But Ultraman might be able to jump over his tail. Also Godzilla killed Megaguirus(Mach 4 speed.) despite it being much faster than him. He caught her stinger with his mouth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDcLHCtgblI#t=93

      Feats- Would like to add in some feats. 

      Heisei Godzilla swimming under the earth's crust. 

      Walking out of a volcano after 4 years of being inside. 

      Surviving Kiryu's Absoulute Zero Cannon

      Surviving a man made black hole, also his cells were able to survive an actual black hole in Godzilla Vs Space Godzilla. 

      This isn't getting into the Final Wars, IDW, and Burning Godzilla.

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    • Beam: Ultraman still wins, because Godzilla Spiral Ray, is a charged up, more intense version of his normal beam, which still means that in terms of mechanics the Ultras' are more deadly. It really just boils down to 'try harder' or 'put some serious effort into the attack', it is still something the Ultras are resistant too, while the mechcanics of their beams means Godzilla's durability is not likely to withstand theirs.

      Speed: Godzilla doesn't move muc faster than typical lumbering Kaiju the Ultramen have fought, also that thing with Megaguiros's stinger, she wasn't moving that fast, especially not compared to the rest of the fight and he just turned around. It says that Godzilla has good reaction time, but in terms of actually, moving, dodging attacks he falls behind. Seriously it is not that hard to hit him, which is the point.

      Feats:

      He survived the Absolute Cannon because of the ocean, most of its energy went into the bloom of ice at the end of the movie, instead of him. What amount did hit him, badly injured him and despite his regenerative powers, he was still partially injured in the next movie

      He survived the Black Hole, both of them, but tunneling underground. With the first Micro Black Hole, he arose outside of the blast radius of the crater it made, meaning he had to have tunnel faster than what you would expect. The second time, he set it off prematurely and escaped underground again. The fact remains he was never actually 'hit' head on by either of those two micro singularities.

      The Volcano thing, I didn't use it because well, that's basically like the Ultras whose planet is so hot and bright that it would instantly incinerate any normal life form. I was looking for feats that seperated the two not something that was similar.


      Nuclear Pulse usually happens when his mouth is obstructed, or something is holding on to him and he can't get free, that's the only use for it. It's not an attack so much as a defense mechanism and I've only seen it used to get free, or to get some space. Unless Godzilla is pinned down, it's not much use beyond that. You could argue that he would use it to stall for time, but that requires thinking, that big G doesn't posses and is against his aggressive nature.


      Strength: Ultraman is noted to lift 200,000 tons, all noted feats of strength and above 100,000 tons. Also...comics are not good for canon. I barely want to mention Story 0, only because it is representative of how Tsuburaya wanted the official backstory and facts of the Ultras to be. The things in there were presented as the official backstory of the Ultras, their evolution and range of abilitiesThe Godzilla Mangas take detours in the stories to are suppose to be versions of, and are more the artists interpretation than actual.

      This brings me to what I hate most about trying to argue Ultraman VS Godzilla, consistency. With Ultraman and the Ultras as a species, there is much more consistancy and conherence in what they can do and the range and limits of their abilities.

      The problem then comes to Godzilla, besides fan bias, there are multiple versions of him. I try to argue against the general average power level shown between the Heisei and Millenium era, and you have mostly stuck to that, which I am most impressed by, but then someone is going to argue for some amalgamation version of him, in which case, just put a Super Ultra against him, wherein Big G has no hope of winning. Or they will attempt to throw in Final Wars Goji, wherein it is only fair to put him against another overpowered normal Ultra, which in this case are Ultraman Zero and Seven X, both of whom have no time limit and again, it's not fair.

      At the end of the day, the only logical and fair conclusion I can reach is this.

      Godzilla= A very powerful foe for the Ultras to fight.

      Ultraman= A very powerful foe for Godzilla to fight, but who is hampered by the fact that the fight can only last three minutes for most versions.

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    • About Megaguirus, Godzilla basically did what I can do on WoT: If an ELC AMX is going at top speed, just aim a little bit in front, and boom, hit. Predict where the moving target will be, and aim there.

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    • I kind of think a more interesting discussion on if Godzilla could handle Ultra kaiju and if Ultras could handle Godzilla kaiju. 

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    • "Godzilla: Can lift and throw monsters his own size and a little bigger."

      Godzilla can lift and throw Biollante that is x3 times bigger than him!

      here 

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    • It really depends on the Godzilla and Ultra. Showa Godzilla gave Zone Fighter a run for his money in what little we saw of their sparring match. And while Zone Fighter won, Showa Godzilla was still able to catch him in midair flight and push him back on the ground so it's not a completely one sided match. Zone Fighter is very similar to the Ultras, he is really OP but has a time limit. Both Zone Fighter and Ultras have lost to weaker monsters than Godzilla because of the time limit, and leep in mind Zone Fighter has beaten Showa King Ghidorah by himself but even he has had to have Godzilla save him from being ganged up on by weaker monsters.

      I think if Godzilla was fighting seriusly he could win by proxy thanks to the time limit, damaging the Color Timer or having his gang of Monster Island buddies with him. The one thing Godzilla has in common with the Ultras and Zone FIghter is they have trouble fighting more than one monster at once.

      Godzilla could beat some of the Ultras but he'd lose to others. It'd mostly come down to just outlasting their time limit for a lot of them and some don't even have a time limit and some are just too OP to even last second against let alone minutes.

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    • I agree with TrueLivingCorspe's points. I believe that Godzilla could beat your average showa Ultra one-on-one unless they used their more devastating attacks (Ultra Guillotine, a well placed Eye Slugger,  or any other attacks that could slice Godzilla up). Hesei Ultras on the other hand, would be harder as they have lots of power-ups.  Ultimate forms, fusion Ultras, super Ultras, etc would defeat Godzilla. Normal Ultras would not, or at the very least they would fight him to a standstill. The always overpowered Zero, would stand a chance of defeating Godzilla. 

      I'm actually working on a Godzilla vs Ultraman fight for a project I'm doing. In this scenario, Godzilla is able to fight off, and neary beat, the original Ultraman, until Seven, Jack, and Ace arrive. After this Godzilla is overpowered by the four Ultras but is still manageing to hold them off.  Godzilla manages to last long enough for their Color timers to start blinking, and then gets the upper hand.  At the end of it, both sides have fought to s standstill. The Ultras are on their knees, color timers still blinking away, and Godzilla is seemeingly downed. Big G then porceeds to get back up and charges his red spiral beam, whilst Ace prepares the Ultra Guillotine, Seven is about to throw his eye slugger, and OG and Jack get ready to fire their specium rays.  Luckiley, Godzilla's clidren (Minya and Jr) step in with their new friend, Ultraman Cosmos. Being the pacifist that he is, as well as being aware that Godzilla has children, attemps to calm down the Ultras, while Jr and Minya try to call off their dad. The Ultras and Godzilla both stop their fighting. Cosmos informs them that a new threat is rising, and they have to work together for the good of the planet. Godzilla and the Ultras agree to join forces. The story continues from there. 

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    • Why are you commenting on a post several months dead...?

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    • SolZen321 wrote:
      Why are you commenting on a post several months dead.

      I'm the fandom user that posted 3 days ago, I have an account now,and I had  just found this thread at the time I wrote that. I was not aware it was dead. 

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    • A FANDOM user
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